Craig

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28-Sep-05
8:51 AM

Craig - this is directed to you. I stumbled upon this website a couple of months ago by accident really. When I first read about this case, I didn't quite know what to make of it. I never heard of Keddie or Quincy and I didn't really believe this happend. How could some 14 year old girl come home and discover this madness, that is just not possible. This was mostly what I thought. I did some digging around and I found out this really did happen, and I really had alot of compassion not just on the victims but for Shelia Sharp who saw something with her own two eyes that had to be so horrible and uncomphrehendible for most people. Quite naturally, I had alot of compassion for her. I have the film and I have watched it several times, but for the first month or so after I found this site I did not have the film so I did not post anything. All I did was read the posts.

Craig, I don't think I would be out of line by saying most of your posts are insensitive, anoying and sometimes down right rude. You only seem to only want to draw attention to yourself. You want to sound like some kind of big shot running around scamming people on big drug deals. I hope I don't offend anyone reading this but come on dude, what big time drug deals? There is no money up there. I have seen the people on the video and done some research on the web. We are not talking about Beverly Hills here, we are talking about Keddie and Quincy. There are not tough guys there like say Compton. Plus we are talking about 1981 Give me a break.

You seem to fail to realize (or you just don't care) that some of the Sharp's and Dana's friends are reading posts on this website. Not only friends but family members. I don't know any of these people. But I say how dare you post such rude and insensitive things when you know darn well that Shelia Sharp is on here reading posts. This case is not about you. It is not about some big drug scam you say you pulled off. It is about a mother, a son, a daughter and another son who were brutally murdered. It is about a daughter who came home and discovered the aftermath of this. It is about that same daughter and 2 other sons who were left motherless. It is about another family who lost a son. That is what it is about Craig. It is not about you.

Zeus's Mom
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0 post
28-Sep-05
9:49 AM

New Guest and Too Close,

Bravo!

I feel like this has been touched on so many times.

Craig,

You must feel like you are being picked on, it seem to follow you every where and I'm sure will continue on the new site. I think someone is trying to tell you something.

Too Close to Home

14 posts
28-Sep-05
10:18 AM

Thank you New Guest! I couldn't have said it better myself.

Valley Flyer
39 posts
28-Sep-05
11:49 AM

This is not meant to defend Craig, he will sink or swim with his own words. I feel some of his statements could have been said a little better, but I don't see deliberate malice, perhaps I'm missing something.

As to drugs up there at that time. Someone is seriously mistaken. In 1980 I had a couple of kids playing baseball for me that I know were doing lines. These were kids from the South area of Sacramento. Please don't tell me that they grow coke down in the Valley.

Where did some of the people being talked about come from? The Bay Area! A great example is Robert S. He had about four or five years of drugs and two failed rehabs under his belt when he showed up in Quincy around 1980 at the age of 21. He supposedly was embezzeling money from his job as manager of the Chester Airport in 1984. seems like his salary wasn't good enough to support his habit. Where the heck did those drugs come from?

Too Close to Home
15 posts
28-Sep-05
12:30 PM

I've never said there weren't drugs in town, there will be bad things everywhere, because people move.

I babysat for SEVERAL people that keep there pot in the coffeetable or 1 lady kept hers in the top drawer of her dresser (I was trying to be nice by finishing up her laundry for her). I may have even run accross acid and not known what it was. This wasn't about whether there were drugs or bad people.

This was all about Craig thinking this forum is all about him and that he can say whatever he wants without forthough. Regardless of what he thinks he is NOT THE VICTIM! If anyone is it would be Sheila, Greg, Ricky, Lisa, Cyhnthia and other surviving family members. He was more of a conspirator. His actions may have gotten 4 people killed. If he has guilt...GOOD! Maybe that means he has remorse for his actions. Has he changed them though...No! He still admits to drinking and drug use. I would think I would have been scared straight, if I were in his shoes in 1981.

He can say he was immature for his age, he obviously still is, other wise he wouldn't be hanging around the kid crowd, thinking he is one. He's a 45 yo man that needs to start acting his age and taking responibility for his actions.

Don't feel sorry for Craig, some of his problems may have been there from birth, but what you choose...is up to you. When you know better, you do better.

Hey Craig, have you learned to do better yet?

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28-Sep-05
12:59 PM

Valley - the last paragraph in my original post pretty much sums it up. This case is about the people that were killed and getting some sort of justic for their family members left behind. It is not about me or anybody else or some nit wit named Craig. If he was truly interested in helping out, he would not be babbling on about stuff some 24 years later.

I have to give Sassy alot of credit because if this nit wit was talking about my brother, sister or mother I am not sure I would be as "polite" as she has been.

Craig is just a "person" (and I use that term verly loosly) that has nothing of importance to say. If he did he would have said something by now. I didn't know any of the victims, but he has bothered me enough to get me to do my original post. I can only imagine how the people who knew the Sharp's and Dana feel. My 3 year old niece makes more sense then him.

LongTimeAgo
24 posts
28-Sep-05
4:07 PM

Wow....I'm proud of you all....Well stated all around.... Anonymous
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29-Sep-05
3:42 PM

i did adress it towards shelia aka sassy
and did say something to her
and im not insensitive to anyone.
im very sensitive and have said some things
to others who have not been sensitive
and told them they were stepping over the line.
since you were not here and did not see this NEW PERSON,
you dont know i have done this.

i well know what this forum about and unfortanely
i might of been involved in this tragedy in
a small way or whatever way you look at it.
SO I GOT A RIGHT TO REALLY COME ON HERE AND SAY
THINGS I NEED TO SAY AND IM AT THE SAME TIME SENSITIVE
TO OTHERS AND THE FAMILY OF BOTH JOHN JOHN AND DANA.
YOU TELL ME WHERE I HAVE NOT BEEN SENSITIVE... ALOT
OF YA ALL COME IN AND SAY IM HIDING SHIOOT OR I SAY TOO
MUCH AND I CANT NOT WIN PERIOD. YOU WANT TO PLAY THIS CATCH-22 THING THEN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AS I DONT PLAY THOSE GAMES AND DAVID SAYS IM HIDING SOEMTHING AND THEN YA ALL COME ON AND SAY IM SAYING TOO MUCH AND BEING TOO INSENSITIVE AND THAT IM TRYING TO MAKE THIS ABOUT ME WHEN IT IS NOT....AND THATS WHAT IT IS ALL, ITS ALL ABOUT IS DANA,JOHN JOHN,SUE AND TINA.

I JUST HAPPEN TO BE THERE AND DID SOMETHING QUITE STUPID
WITH JOHN JOHN AND DANA THAT MIGHT OF BEEN "one" OF THE CAUSES OF THESES MURDERS. THAT IS THE TRUTH RIGHT THERE
AND I WAS AT THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME GOING TO COLLEGE AND ALL THIS SHIOOT HAPPEN. YOU GUYS ARE SO INTERESTED AND WANT TO POINT FINGERS AT PEOPLE THAT YOU DO NOT EVEN FANTOM WHAT EFFECTS IT IS DOING ON THE PEOPLE WHO
ACTUALLY LIVED THRU THIS AND CONTINUE TO LIVE THRU THIS AND SHAME ON YOU FOR DOING THIS.

I DONT WANT ATTENTION AND WANT TO OPPOSITE AND I JUST WANT THIS SOLVED SO I CAN SETTLE IT THAT I HAD A SMALL PART IN THIS CHAOS THAT HAPPEN OR NOT AND I CAN GO ON WITH MY LIFE AND I WANT ALSO THE FAMILIES TO HAVE THIS SETTLED EVEN THO I DONT KNOW THEM. I KNEW JOHN JOHN AND DANA AND THATS IT AND LIKE I SAID I SAW THEM SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK AND NOT EVERYDAY AND WE WERE NOT PAL PALS BUT WERE STILL FRIENDS.

YOU KNOW WHAT IS ALSO A CATCH-22 THING IN THIS FORUM IS I
DO WANT THIS SOLVED SO I WILL KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT IS CREATING ALOT OF ATTENTION ON
ME WHICH I DO NOT LIKE SO IT IS REALLY A DONT DO OR DO THING OF DAMN IF YOU DO AND DAMNED IF YOU DONT...DAMNED IF I DO CONTINUE TO SAY THINGS AND CONTINUE TO GET FINGERS POINTED AT ME AND DAMN IF I DONT AND IT WILL NEVER BE SOLVED AND THIS GUILT WILL GO ON TIL MY DEATH.

YA ALL GO ON AND POINT FINGERS AND SAY IM HIDING STUFF
AS YOUR GETTING AWAY ROM THE MAIN POINT OF THIS FORUM AND THATS TO FIND JOHN JOHN AND DANA'S MURDER AND THAT WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO UP TO A POINT WHEN IT GOT NASTY IN HERE.

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29-Sep-05
5:15 PM

Craig - you just don't get it do you? Or maybe you do and you are just trying to get people to play along with your game. You make this drug thing almost sound like some big organized mafia thing or something. The video says there were 33 police officers in the entire county up there in 1981 If there was some big drug ring going on up there, there would be a bigger police force than that. Coke, weed, Acid...........that stuff is everywhere and was everywhere since back in the 60's and maybe even before.

I think the video says a large portion of the entire county police force was working on this case. How could you pull all these officers together to work on this? Must not have been much else going on up there.

You are right in one thing. You do have the right to say what you want. This is still the United States of America and we are still a free nation.

If I am a "new person" and I have been able to figure out all this stuff out about you and make the post I did, that ought to tell you something. From what I have read about the character of John and Dana from people on the board, they would probably not hang around someone like you. That is if you are the kind of person that you are presenting yourself to be.

I am going to leave it at that and I am not posting on this subject anymore.

Anonymous
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29-Sep-05
5:45 PM

i dont want the attention
far from it and your not getting my point
damn if i do and damn if i don't......
you have not been on here long enough to see
this and what has happened and when i came on they
were pointing towards mr silveras as the culprit along others that they were trying to say did the murders
until i straighten that out and said silveras was in jail and also there was other motives that they were not looking at.

The drug ripoff was just an rumour til i confirmed it
and other pieces have since fallen together because of this
which im glad as atleast there is an better idea than the btk or silveras did the crime which was where they were going when i came on this site and alot of other crazy theories.

The number of sheriff up there has nothing to do how they solve things and the plumas sheriff could not solve a crime unless they got a big break and im not ridiculing them up there but ask anyone up there what i mean by this
as im not going to go negative and say shioot when i still go up there time to time. the case was bundled badly and if they had 50 fewer sheriff people on it or 50 more it would not make a difference as they just dont handle shiot
right and did not in this case either and like i said i wont go into ridiculing the plumas county sheriff department for obvious reasons.

you obviously done some research but what you dont have is
knowledge of the area, history,and been up there to see how it is really is and that lack of realistic knowledge
means your gonna have faulty theories and ideas unless you go up there and see for yourself what im talking about or
anyone else who lived there and gone thru this trageic
times.

i NEVER SAID THAT THE DRUG RIPOFF WAS THE ONLY THING THAT
CAUSED THE MURDERS AND IT WAS PROBABLY OTHER THINGS TOO
AND THAT WAS JUST A PIECE OF THE WHOLE PICTURE BUT WAS STILL A PIECE OF IT AND I STILL BELIEVE IT. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT BO HAVING A CRUSH ON SUE, MARTY AND BO HATING JOHN JOHN AND DANA AND SOME OTHERS THINGS THAT PLAYED A ROLE IN THESE MURDERS AND THOSE ALL PLAYED A PART IN THIS ALL PROBABLY AND THE RACE CARD TOO WHICH YOU FORGET THAT I HAD A BLACK GIRLFRIEND AND THERE WERE SEVERAL BLACKS WHO HUNG AROUND ME AND MY GIRLFRIEND AND QUINCY WAS AT THAT TIME VERY DIVDED IN RACE...DONT THINK RACE PLAYED REAL BIG PART
BUT IT WAS PRESENT IN QUINCY AT THE TIME.

LET ME MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR....

I DONT WANT ATTENTION FROM THIS AND REALLY WANT THIS TO GO AWAY AND BE SOLVED NOT ONLY FOR MYSELF BUT FOR THE FAMILIES
AND ALL THIS ATTENTION ON ME IS MAKING ME VERY UNCOMFORTABLE..I GOT SHIOOT TO DO AND SCHOOL TO ATTEND AND GET ON WITH MY LIFE.

Keddie RR
141 posts
29-Sep-05
5:48 PM

Boy , your words make me recall words that great men such as Nostradamus
Had written hundreds of years ago


Quatrain 8,14
Le grand credit d'or, d'argent l'abondance
Fera aveugler par libide honneur
Sera cogneu d'adultere l'offense,
Qui parviendra a` son grand deshonneur.

The great credit of gold and abundance of silver
will cause honour to be blinded by lust;
the offence of the adulterer will become known,
which will occur to his great dishonour.

One mans translation was …. “Most appropriately , the economic plight of the twentieth century includes soaring inflation and currency devaluation , alongside universal laxity in morals and lust rampant with little social restraint. “

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0 post
29-Sep-05
5:56 PM

I have not done much research on this at all. I've watched the video about 4 or 5 times. I read the article on website of the San Francisco paper. I've read the posts on the board. I will admit that I have the ability to pick things out, I am pretty observant. I have noticed things in the video that to me don't add up. If you read some of my New Guest posts you will see what some of them are. Everybody has things they are good at. One of mine is being observant. I am horrible in science and math. You might be good in those subjects.

I do plan to do some research on this in the near future. So far I have just picked things out and for all I know I could be wrong on everything I think so far.

Craig, I do not know you at all. Everybody has their good qualities and I am sure you have yours. I wish you the best of luck in life, I really do. But please please, realize this case does not revolve around you.

This time I really am not posting any more on this issue.

Anonymous
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0 post
29-Sep-05
6:14 PM

ok
I SAID IT DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND ME
HELLO
ILL SAY IT ONE MORE TIME
IT DOES NOT EVOLVE AROUND ME

I WAS ONLY THERE AT THE WRONG TIME AND PLACE GOING TO COLLEGE
AND THESE TRAGIC THINGS HAPPEN
TWO FRIENDS GOT MURDERED PLUS TWO OTHER PEOPLE MURDERED
AND I GOT BEATEN UP SEVERLY AND COULD OF DIED
FROM THE BEATING..FIVE MONTHS AFTER THE MURDERS.
WERE THEY CONNECTED I DONT KNOW FOR SURE
BUT I DO KNOW THE DRUG RIP OFF DID HAPPEN
THE MURDERS HAPPEN AND MY BEATING HAPPEN.

SOOOO WHAT IS WHAT AND WHY IT HAPPENED IS STILL BEING
DISCUSSED AND MIGHT NOT EVER BE RESOLVED TRUELY EVER.

I WAS JUST A PERSON THERE AT THE TIME AND DID SOME STUPID ASS SHIOOT I SHOULD OF NOT DONE WITH SOME FRIENDS I HAD
JUST MET MONTHS EARLIER.

IT SOUNDED WHAT YOU BEEN SAYING YOU DONE SOME RESEARCH
ON THESE MURDERS AND THE BEST THING TO REALLY GET AN IDEA
IS TO GO UP TO PLUMAS COUNTY AND CHECK EVERYTHING OUT AS
THAT WILL GIVE YA AN REALISTIC IDEA OF THINGS AND HOW IT IS REALLY LIKE UP THERE AND THE OUTLAY OF KEDDIE AND QUINCY AS JUST DOING RESEARCH IS FINE BUT GOING THERE WILL GIVE YOU AN MORE REALISTIC VIEW.

you dont know me and none of you dont except valley so you to pre-judge me is wrong and very hurtful and like i said shame on you for pointing fingers and accusing people of shioot when it is hard enough dealing and continueing to
deal with such an tragedy...LIKE I SAID IT IS A CATCH-22 IN MANY WAYS AND DAMN IF YOU DO AND DAMNED IF YOU DONT SCENERIO.

i just want this to end and get resolved
thats all i want
peace for the families and peace for me.

I WAS JUST A CHESS PIECE IN A HUGE CHESS GAME
CALLED THE KEDDIE CABIN MURDERS.. A PAWN MAYBE.
THINK ABOUT THAT.!!

Anonymous
Guest
0 post
29-Sep-05
6:25 PM

by the way
i dont drink or do drugs anymore
im an straight arrow and has been since quincy
and i use to smoke out a litle bit but
has stopped that too.
you better believe that made me straighten out
and i might have a beer 1-2 times a year but
not like i use to have and you can ask anyone who
knows me if i drink or do any hard drugs.
they will tell you no..hes a stiff and straight arrow.

a conspirator huh
well thanks that makes me think and feel really good
you know how to make a person really feel shioooty
and you tell me im insensitive and all that
what do you think that remark did or made me feel.
i hope you know this really makes me think DIFFERENT
and i lost respect for you by that remark.
talk about cold hearted and that good i should feel
guilty remark also was even more cold hearted.

HEYA AGAIN YOU WANT TO SAY THINGS AND POINT FINGERS
AND SAY IM THIS AND THAT WHEN YOU DONT EVEN KNOW ME
THEN THAT SHOWS YOUR PRE-JUDGING ME WHEN YOU DONT EVEN KNOW ME AND YOU SHOULD NEVER PRE JUDGE SOMEONE UNTIL
YOU MEET THE PERSON OR GET TO KNOW THE PERSON BUT THIS
WORLD SO MUCH ABOUT THAT AND TAKING PEOPLE FROM THE OUTSIDE
THAN THEY SHOULD TAKE FROM THE INSIDE...INSIDE BEAUTY IS
MORE IMPORTANT THAN OUTSIDE BEAUTY.

DONT YOU THINK SO?

Anonymous
Guest
0 post
29-Sep-05
10:22 PM

It doesn't revolve around him? And yet every response he makes is a novel. Upper case yet! His life must be terribly empty to have to live so long in the past.

Craig, someday soon you're going to wake up an old man and realize that you've wasted your life... looking back, rather than forward. So sad.

Too Close to Home
16 posts
29-Sep-05
11:22 PM

"AND THAT IM TRYING TO MAKE THIS ABOUT ME WHEN IT IS NOT..."

By George I think he's got it...This website (nor the next one) is about Craig...It's about Dana and Johnny, Tina and Sue!


"you obviously done some research but what you dont have is
knowledge of the area, history,and been up there to see how it is really is and that lack of realistic knowledge
means your gonna have faulty theories and ideas unless you go up there and see for yourself what im talking about or
anyone else who lived there and gone thru this trageic
times."

I've been there, and I know what it was like, my sisters friends were into drugs and so were a lot of people that I babysat for. Personally I can't see how the ratio of drug use would really be any higher. It just seems like it would be.

"HEYA AGAIN YOU WANT TO SAY THINGS AND POINT FINGERS
AND SAY IM THIS AND THAT WHEN YOU DONT EVEN KNOW ME"

I don't have to meet you to know you...You've given so much info about you that everyone on the last forum or this can tell what your like.

Last Edited: by Too Close to Home on 2005-09-30 23:03:44.29

craig
Guest
0 post
30-Sep-05
2:17 PM

for one thing i never said anything like that
and dont put words in my mouth as thats wrong
i never said it was about me and i put in caps
to make my point
am i using caps now
no

i write stuff and sure it might be a bit long sometimes
but it is not on purpose and like i said i am just
a small piece in the bigger chess board called keddie cabin
murders and i was there when it happened, was friends with john john and dana and did some things i should not of done.

by the way you dont know me and what i write is not
everything and ask valley what i meant by that and
he has actually met me and knows better than all of you
who i am but still he does not know me very well as he
met me once and only once.

you again pre judge me by what i write in here and
that is nothing as to meeting and getting to know a person so please dont prejudge me as you dont know me..period.
i have stated that people take what is outside more than
what is inside in this world and again i state that and
you take what i type and stuff you hear but dont want to know whats inside..you dont know me so stop pre judging me.

Keddie RR
143 posts
30-Sep-05
2:36 PM

I don’t know Craig you got on this website a few months back and told everyone you got 2 meet me….LOL

so just how are you a pawn ??

Last Edited: by Keddie RR on 2005-09-30 14:38:02.673

craig
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0 post
30-Sep-05
3:38 PM

i never met you david
i only met valley from this site
thats all
valley was the one that met you
not me
and i met valley
thats whats your saying
right?

Anonymous
Guest
0 post
30-Sep-05
3:40 PM

pawn is the term in chess
lowest piece on the board
and just one of many pieces
you figure out the meaning of that
is and your figure a piece of me out
ok david

Keddie RR
144 posts
30-Sep-05
5:21 PM

Yea , I know chess ,as far Keddie chess pieces goes... It just seems like a new bull shit story …to the best that I can tell , these were just simple honest folk that lost their life’s.

Too Close to Home
18 posts
30-Sep-05
11:02 PM

Oops! meant to write (nor the next one)

Anonymous
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0 post
01-Oct-05
8:11 AM

don’t you find it odd that a dead mans (Marty) names can be placed on a website in the public eye for so long and that the only person that has anything bad to say about the guy is extremely vague at the vary best

Craig you said that you where just a pawn , yet I did find something that dose show where you are a leader and will do the dirty work also….

FRO (Flatland Rider’s Organization) proprietor Mutt swept his hardest and earned a good sunburn because of it, so a big thanks goes out to the dogg known as Mutt for making the lot somewhat more bearable for the riders that entered.

http://www.23mag.com/events/cfb/c01r2.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/fronj/kocreport.html

http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/fronj/21.html

family
1 post
01-Oct-05
3:42 PM

Amazing!!!

I haven't responded to any posts in some months now.... and "it's the same as it ever was" (to quote the Talking Heads)

Still Craig is saying nothing of any imortance, and everyone is playing into that...

What is there that is new? What else has been done?

LongTimeAgo
25 posts
01-Oct-05
4:49 PM

On the same line as the above post..Sorry this took up so much room...But this is Craig?

From:http://www.parrotchronicles.com/septoct2004/mailbag.htm

I'm a wildlife biologist student at Humboldt State University and friends with Mark Bittner and others who look after the wild parrots of California from the Marin headwaters to San Diego. There are now 13 feral species of parrots found in California, not 10 as you stated, including roughly over 8,000 individuals. The species are: red-crowned parrots(Amazona virigenalis), lilac-crowned parrots (Amazona finschi), rose-ringed parakeets (Psiitacula krameri), mitred conures(Aratinga mitrata), red-masked conures(Aratinga erythrogenys), blue-crowned conures (Aratinga acuticaudata), canary-winged parakeets (Brotogeris versicolorus), yellow-cheveroned parakeets (Brotogeris chiriri), nanday conure (Aratinga nenday), red-lored parrots (Amazona autumnalis), blue-front parrots (Amazona aestiva), white-fronted parrots (Amazona albifrons), yellow-headed parrots (Amazona oratix), scarlet macaw (Ara macao) and military macaws (Ara militaris).

Here are their locations in southern to central California:

Bakersfield - 800-900 rose-ringed parakeets
Fresno - 500-600 rose-ringed parakeets.
Irvine/Northwood - over 1,000 red-masked conures, lilac-crown parrots, yellow-headed parrots and mitred conures.
Malibu - 200-250 Nanday conures
Orange County/Chapman campus - 60-70 mitred conures, 100-130 red-crowned parrots, 40-50 yellow-headed parrots
Pasadena/Altadena/Temple City - over 2,000 red-crowned parrots, 400-500 lilac-crown parrots and yellow-chevroned parakeets
San Diego - 120-130 red-masked parrots, lilac-crown parrots and mitred conures.
Santa Ana - 30 yellow-crowned parrots.
And in northern California:

Berkeley/East Oakland - 200-300 red-masked conures with a few mitred conures (possibly defunct)
Monterey - as yet unidentified species, perhaps lovebirds (near downtown).
Palo Alto/Stanford - 40-50 red-masked conures and some mitred conures
San Francisco - 140 red-masked conures (Ford Mason to Embarcadero); 52 canary-tipped parakeets (Mission to Dolores Park area); 10 African greys (Golden Gate Park area); 5 scarlet macaws (Nob Hill area).
San Luis Obispo - 100 red-masked conures mixed with blue-headed conures and mitred conures.
Santa Cruz - 120 red-masked conures; 65 canary-tipped parakeets; various unknown additional species as yet unidentified.
Sunnyvale - 78-80 red-masked conures (downtown and southern part of city).
In San Francisco, mitred conures and red-masked conures are nesting together and producing hybrids then double-hybrids. Sadly, we have lost 30 to 40 percent of the fledglings to viruses and predation. Regardless, in the last 14 years numbers have climbed from 45-50 parrots to at least 140. This year's count might bring the number to 200. Yellow-headed parrots seem to be declining as people are catching them for pets. Rose-winged parakeets are faring the best, spreading slowly north up Highway 5 and 99; they now total 1,500 - 2,000 in the central valley. For more information on parrot counts in California, e-mail me at luckmutt43@aol.com.

--Craig Walters

LongTimeAgo
26 posts
01-Oct-05
5:03 PM

Craig..What is your REAL STORY......Schizophrenia, ego, dominance.....The two boards you have participated on you gave the impression of being of a small mind...Now with the Parrot board you appear to be very inteligent.....I'm confused...help...

EJ
2 posts
02-Oct-05
8:23 PM

Craig,
Can you tell me if Marty or Bo drove a Van?
Thanks,
Ej


Did you drive a Van?

Ej

Last Edited: by EJ on 2005-10-03 10:52:51.8

Anonymous
Guest
0 post
03-Oct-05
12:41 PM

at the time i did not drive a van
i had a toyota corona station wagon
tan hatchback.

EJ
3 posts
03-Oct-05
1:56 PM

Craig,
Did Bo or Marty drive a Van?

Ej

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