Keddie RR
15 posts
23-Aug-05
9:10 PM
More rumors to dig threw
…. I had a few people talk about some kind of killer they called the
“hillside strangler” they thought could be connected to the case back in
1981 … has anyone heard of that killer ?
I got so busy giving someone a hard time … I almost forgot about this rumor
There is one more that I haven’t talked about yet because , I have been waiting for just a few answers from Craig that he seems to dodge …. And it was about a prominent Son … that isn’t Craig … unless he changed his name …..then that would make things a bit intrusting
Anonymous
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0 post
23-Aug-05
9:34 PM
David,
I believe the "hillside stranglers" were actually 2 guys, Angelo Buono and Kenneth Bianchi, who fancied themselves "cousins." They were from the Los Angeles area and they were responsible for many murders of young women. I believe they were apprehended well before April 11, 1981.
Keddie RR
17 posts
23-Aug-05
10:20 PM
It looks like Keddie
murders where over shadowed by the trial of the “hillside stranger”
“In October 1977, Los Angeles police found the body of a naked woman,
who'd been raped and murdered and left on a hillside. By February 1978,
the count had risen to 10 and the media was calling the killer "The
Hillside Strangler." It turned out to be one of the most notorious,
publicized, and terrifying cases in Los Angeles history.
Police later captured two cousins: Kenneth Bianchi and Angelo Buono."
"By late 1981 the trial finally began in Los Angeles. It was one of the longest trials on record: two years and two days. Bianchi was on the stand for six months, giving confusing and contradictory testimony. He eventually pleaded guilty to five of the Los Angeles murders, while Buono was found guilty on nine out of ten. Buono is serving life without parole in California. Bianchi is serving his life sentence in the Washington State penitentiary at Walla Walla. “
Keddie RR
21 posts
24-Aug-05
8:24 PM
It looks like Keddie
murders where over shadowed by the trial of the “hillside stranger”
craig
36 posts
24-Aug-05
2:19 PM ?the truck being clean does not mean
john john and dana did what they did
which they did and i was there
whats the point david
huh
tell us where ya going with this all
thanks “
I don’t think that the family or the boys would have been apart of a rip
off … it just dose feel right 2 me…
So will you feel us in on the details so that we could judge it for our
self’s
I can see the boys getting in trouble over their mouth …. I just cant see how two young guys could bring that kind of trouble home , it just doesn’t sit well with me with the small facts I have to go on.
You seem to be the only one “left” singing that tune of a rip off …… everyone else who has something like that didn’t stick around … so how can you believe them?
Could it be that most people felt someone did the crime , was also a drug dealer and that’s how they make since of such a brutal crime??? The easiest path isn’t always the correct path … I wish it could be at times…
Keddie RR
28 posts
25-Aug-05
3:06 PM
Well for starters tell us
about the boys ... we already know you
Keddie RR
34 posts
26-Aug-05
12:56 PM
That seemed pretty generic
…. For a guy would words things so beatify ….
These buddies are your long lost buddies who died tragically at the hands of murders who got away with the crimes … I have seen you describe your bike better , its sad to say…….
Keddie RR
35 posts
26-Aug-05
1:01 PM
I song keeps going threw
my head “Forever young”
Keddie RR
37 posts
26-Aug-05
1:11 PM
I was thinking AlphaVille
… Forever young-
Let’s dance
in style, lets dance for a while
Heaven can wait we’re only watching the skies
Hoping for the best but expecting the worst
Are you going to drop the bomb or not?
Let us die
young or let us live forever
We don’t have the power but we never say never
Sitting in a sandpit, life is a short trip
The music’s for the sad men
Can you
imagine when this race is won
Turn our golden faces into the sun
Praising our leaders we’re getting in tune
The music’s played by the madmen
Forever
young, I want to be forever young
Do you really want to live forever, forever and ever
Some are
like water, some are like the heat
Some are a melody and some are the beat
Sooner or later they all will be gone
Why don’t they stay young
It’s so hard
to get old without a cause
I don’t want to perish like a fading horse
Youth is like diamonds in the sun
And dimonds are forever
So many
adventures couldn’t happen today
So many songs we forgot to play
So many dreams are swinging out of the blue
We let them come true
Gold/1982
Last Edited: by Keddie RR on 2005-08-28 21:22:46.06
Keddie RR
45 posts
29-Aug-05
12:22 PM
Do you recall who lived
next door to you in Quincy 1980/81 ???
JesseW
11 posts
29-Aug-05
5:33 PM
David,
That is so werd I downloaded that song right befor I left for Keddie It
totally reminded me of the Kids back then. I wish i had the chance to know
them. I also have audtopsy reports...... and no trace of drugs or alchole
in any of the boys or Sue.
Thats comforting to know
Jesse
Anonymous
Guest
0 post
30-Aug-05
5:06 PM
Why does it sound funny to
you Craig? It could mean that they didn't happen to do drugs that night. I
know they have done them in the past.
Anonymous
Guest
0 post
30-Aug-05
10:00 PM
Yes I knew them very well.
Anon
Guest
0 post
30-Aug-05
10:58 PM
Anonoymous - if you knew
them very well, then what is your take on the toxicology report? The boys
were at a large party at Oakland Camp, but they didn't drink? That would
be unusual behavior for them, would it not?
Anonymous
Guest
0 post
31-Aug-05
7:58 AM
Maybe they were there for
a short time and didn't drink. Why would the reports lie. Don't get me
wrong, I know they did drink and did do drugs occassionly.
JesseW
14 posts
31-Aug-05
9:18 AM
Well how long dose pot
stay in your system? If they smoked it occasonaly then you think there
would be traces if they did it that night or 2 weeks ago right?
Anon
Guest
0 post
31-Aug-05
12:36 PM
Anonymous & Jessie - I
don't think the reports lied. I think it is entirely possible there were
no illegal substances in their bloodstreams. The question is, why? While I
did not really know the boys, I did know of them and from what I knew, I
would say this is unusual. Maybe it is because they were not at the party
long enough to drink enough for it to show up and/or they didn't stay long
enough to be offered the opportunity to "smoke out" as Craig would say. I
think that is kinda odd also. You go all the way from Keddie to Oakland
Camp to party and then don't stay long enough to have a good time. Who did
they go to that party with? Did they hitchhike out there?
Anon
JesseW
18 posts
31-Aug-05
12:42 PM
Anon,
I dont know nothing about the party that night or how they got there. Maby
Craig can help with this one
PS did you live there at the time ?
Anon
Guest
0 post
31-Aug-05
12:48 PM
Yes, Jesse I did. My son
played with Tina on occasion. I knew some of the people at the Oakland
Camp party. This was a horrific and very shocking event. The Idaho murders
brought it all back. I guess that's why I went looking for a place to
express my sadness and frustration.
I would be very interested to know just who Duncan spent time in jail with!?!
JesseW
20 posts
31-Aug-05
12:57 PM
What year did you leave
Keddie
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Guest
0 post
31-Aug-05
1:00 PM
Anon - the Groene/Idaho
thing is how I stumbled upon this site. I thought it was interesting that
you brought this up.
I read what Jesse said to one of my posts (thanks Jesse). I still wonder if it was random. Kinda like a stalking thing. Like what Duncan did or like BTK.
Sometimes I think I watch too much forensic files !!!!
JesseW
21 posts
31-Aug-05
1:11 PM
anything is possable but
this little resort was very hidden and an outsider would be noticed in a
heartbeat
justwondering
4 posts
01-Sep-05
9:07 AM
craig they were stoners
and if you were such good friends with them you would know that we all
were stoners we were kids that had nothing better do you had people that
didnt party and people who did (we did). its the same way now of days
doesnt make them bad people or involved with big time drug dealers
Last Edited: by justwondering on 2005-09-01 14:21:53.053
Anon
Guest
0 post
01-Sep-05
12:25 PM
Jesse - I didn't live in
Keddie - I lived in Quincy and I left in 1984. I do still visit at least
once a year because I have family there.
Salem
Susan
2 posts
01-Sep-05
1:07 PM
I did a little research
and found this info. In frequent users blood test can detect THC for up to
4 - 8 hrs after. And blood tests can detect 9-carboxy-THC up to 2 weeks or
more after use. In infrequent users blood tests can detect THC up to 3 - 4
hrs after. Blood tests detect 9-carboxy-THC for up to 2 - 3 days after
use. Urine tests detect 9-carboxy-THC. In frequent users urine can detect
up to 2weeks up to a month. Now mind you the more frequent the user the
longer it takes to leave the system. Extremely heavy users it can take 3
months. Infrequent users it can take up to 10 days. I found that on this
site http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/1034.html.
So depending on which test they used and what chemicals they were looking for COULD explain why the boys came back clean. It was over 20 yrs ago and I'm not even sure when they started testing for 9-carboxy-THC. And also keep in mind the THC levels in pot weren't nearly as strong as now. And I'd guess being teens and not having a whole lot to spend on pot they probably wasn't getting the best stuff.
Also they probably did blood test not urine tests so it would only show if they had smoked anything only HOURS before their murders. Thats only if they were testing for THC and couldn't test for 9-carboxy-THC
Just tossing out my 2 cents worth.
Hope this helps
Last Edited: by Susan on 2005-09-01 13:13:54.73
Valley Flyer
13 posts
01-Sep-05
1:10 PM
Good work. Yeah, it
probably was from blood tests. A little more research needs to be done to
determine what tests were used. Anonymous
Guest
0 post
01-Sep-05
2:33 PM
just wondering...for your
info
i included myself
i know what we were
lol
very aware and was just
trying to be political correct
in stating that we were not total stoners
but we did smoke out and i did as much
as any one else in that group and i was older
by 4-5 years.
i dont want
to upset anyone who might
see this..etc family but im not denying anything
and know what went on as i was in that group
remember and was a wild bunch person.
Too Close to Home
Guest
0 post
26-Sep-05
4:42 PM
Pot will stay in your
"system" as long as you have hair on your body...
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