RICHARD MEEKS
1 post
03-Oct-05
12:42 AM
I JUST FOUND THIS WEBSITE
TODAY. HEY,SASSY(AKA SHEILA)AND FAMILY I MISS YOU ALL A LOT. DON'T LISTEN
TO THE PEOPLE ON THIS SITE LIKE CRAIG WHO DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT YOUR
FAMILY OR DANA. I KNEW YOUR FAMILY VERY WELL AND CRAIG HAD NOTHING TO DO
WITH THEM. DANA AND JOHNNY WERE NOT INVOLVED IN DRUGS AND DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
WHAT DRUGS WERE. THEY WERE GOOD BOYS AND YOUR MOM WAS A VERY GOOD LADY.
SHE WAS LIKE A SECOND MOM TO ME. CRAIG IS A GLORY SEEKING BAY AREA FAG AND
OBVIOUSLY HAS NO LIFE YET! JUST LIKE HE WAS A NOBODY WHEN HE MOVED TO
QUINCY "AFTER" THE MURDERS. HEY CRAIG, ANY GIRLS BEAT YOU UP LATELY? THATS
ALL FOR MY FIRST POST. HOPE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY IS WELL.KEEP IN TOUCH.LOVE
YOU ALL!
Anonymous
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03-Oct-05
6:31 AM
Richard,
Good to see some real people here, This site is going down mid October
please sign up for the new board
Here is a link
http://www.phpbbcity.com/forum/?mforum=cabin28
We need real people like you around that know the truth
sassy
7 posts
03-Oct-05
8:12 AM
Hey Richard,
Go to the other site www.cabin28.com and email me.
sassy
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0 post
03-Oct-05
8:47 AM
Hi Richard - I don't know
you but listed man, your post kicks ass and I wish I had the guts to call
Craig out like you did. I wanted to do that in my "Craig" post but since I
do not know any of the parties involved I really didn't want to offend
Shelia. Meaning I didn't want Craig replying and saying things that would
even be more rude than he has said before. I find some of the things he
has said intollerable and like I said, I think he is very lucky that sassy
has been so polite in her responses. That says alot about her character.
Wow yet again another poster who has said John and Dana were not on drugs and Sue was a nice lady. Gee.........imagine that!
Anonymous
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03-Oct-05
12:37 PM
richard
i dont know your family
ok
heya you remember me right
because i remember you and i do know your family
atleast part of it and where ya come off saying this
what would your sister say to this and monte also.
look im out of this now as it has gotten way too
nasty and very mean spirited in all ways.
richard i can not believe you would say such things
towards me and you know im been friends of both monte and laronda for like
24 plus years now.
it is just because of laronda and monte i dont rip into you
as i got respect for friends and family.
richard you
believe what you want to believe and
everyone else can too as i dont care as i said
what i needed to say and thats all im going to say.
EJ
4 posts
03-Oct-05
2:11 PM
I'm confused. I've read
the information on the list
and can't understand why Craig is being given such a hard time. Are you
upset with the information he has provided
or are you upset with the way he has expresed himself?
Is there some reason to believe that he is lying?
I haven't seen that reason if it exists.
If his story is true, and it sure has the ring of truth,
then this mystery could be solved. We need to examine
his evidence not his personality or history.
Ej
RICHARD MEEKS
2 posts
03-Oct-05
8:05 PM
EJ,
CRAIG SAYS DANA DRANK AND DID DRUGS BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT HE DIDN'T
BECAUSE HA HAD A MEDICAL CONDITION THAT PROHIBITED HIM FROM BEING ABLE TO
DRINK. IF CRAIG REALLY KNEW DANA HE WOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS ABOUT HIM.
JOHNNY WAS NEVER CALLED JOHN JOHN BY ANYONE, HE WOULD HAVE HATED THAT. I
PRACTICALLY LIVED WITH THIS FAMILY AND THEY WITH MY FAMILY. OUR FAMILIES
WERE VERY CLOSE BACK THEN. OUR MOTHERS WENT TO THE COLLEGE TOGETHER AND
ALL US KIDS HUNG OUIT TOGETHER. THERE IS SOME EVIDENCE THAT WAS WITHHELD
THAT ONLY THE FAMILY AND CLOSE FRIENDS WOULD KNOW ABOUT THAT PERTAIN TO
THIS INVESTIGATION THAT CRAIG COULD NOT TELL YOU ABOUT BECAUSE HE WASN'T
EVEN IN PLUMAS COUNTY AT THE TIME. HE THROWS OUT PEOPLES NAMES FROM QUINCY
AND KEDDIE THAT HE MET AFTER ALL THIS WENT DOWN. HE WAS NOT EVER ONE OF
THE "WILD BUNCH" OR OF ANY GROUP HE WAS KNOWN BY ALL OF US AS A "SNITCH",A
"NARK" AND A "SISSY BOY". MY WHOLE LIFE CHANGED WHEN THIS ALL HAPPENED AND
I JUST DON'T LIKE ANYONE TALKING ON HERE ABOUT ALL THIS WHO WASN'T EVEN
THERE OR KNOW ALL THE FACTS.
Last Edited: by RICHARD MEEKS on 2005-10-03 20:45:13.723
Anonymous
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0 post
03-Oct-05
8:13 PM
Richard,
Are you saying Craig didn't live in the area until after the murders?
I wonder why anyone would want to create some false scenario about an unsolved murder. There was a drug rip off according to Josh in the last message board. But when did this happen? Was Craig behind it? And did it have absolutely nothing to do with John and Dana?
Why would Craig try to sell us this theory for months?
Could someone be so deranged that they would post so many messages about something that never really happened? Could he be that starved for attention? I'm dumbfounded...
RICHARD MEEKS
3 posts
03-Oct-05
8:37 PM
YES! HE IS THE TYPE OF
PERSON WHO WOULD DO THIS. HE WAS A SOCIAL OUTCAST BACK THEN AND IT SOUNDS
LIKE HE STILL IS. GO BACK AND READ ALL OF HIS POSTS AND FORM YOUR OWN
CHARACTER ANALYSIS OF HIM JUST BY WHAT ALL HE'S POSTED. DANA COULD NOT
DRINK ALCOHOL AT ALL!
kmmannies
1 post
04-Oct-05
9:41 AM
Creg Walters- Why do you
come on this site and purposely try to make yourself part of something you
had NOTHING to do with. I totally agree with Richard Meeks. You see, Creg,
I know you personally and I know that you even live in Quincy when the
murder happened; I know that you like to make yourself feel like your
important. That’s great, but not when it involves my family. You have NO
IDEA WHAT THE HELL YOUR TALKING ABOUT. Sheila is part of my family, she is
a wonderful person, don’t you think its hard enough to live day to day
with her memories, then to deal with have a over active imagination creep
like you, coming on here and starting crap. Hey, I recommend not coming
back to Quincy for a very long time. Oh.. LaRonda and Monte don’t want
anything to do with you… don’t call Them . Don’t come by. You’ve tapped
into something you can’t dig yourself out of. They would never say those
things about people they loved. So please stop saying stuff that isn’t
true. I only makes you look like an idiot.. In my eyes you’re not welcome
in Quincy –at ALL. Shelia don’t listen to this creep. He isn’t wroth it.
Really. Mom says hi.. and not to let this ass get to you and to call her.
Uncle Richard we tried calling last night. The number Grandma gave up
didn’t work. Hey don’t let Creg boil your blood. He a pathetic excuse of a
human being who needs to get his head checked, really Creg go see someone.
Well I am done for now. To the people who don’t know me I am Kinderlin
Mannies, I am family of Richard and Sheila, They both know the truth don’t
listen to Creg Walters. Anonymous
Guest
0 post
04-Oct-05
9:45 AM
Thanks for the post
Kinderlin Im so glad to see people on here that actually did know sue and
the boys.
Hope to see you on the other board as well
kmmannies
2 posts
04-Oct-05
9:52 AM
I didnt know Sue or The
boys. I do know Creg, Sheila, Richard, Monte, LaRonda. I know that Creg
really has some screws loose, nothing he said is FACTUAL at all, there
mearly ideas in his twisted head.
Kinderlin Mannies
Too Close to Home
21 posts
04-Oct-05
10:17 AM
Kinderlin,
I have an idea of who you are, although I won't post it here. Not everyone may have figured it out yet. I know you never got the chance to know Johnny and Dana, but they were neat guys and my guess is you would have really liked them.
If you or your parents want to contact me and know who I am, you can do so at domesticgoddess91@gmail.com. I should have graduated in 86, but moved in 84.
Thanks for clearing up so much that we all suspected for so long about Craig.
kmmannies
3 posts
04-Oct-05
10:53 AM
I will have my mom email
you if you would like. you can also email her at my email address if you
would like. kmmannies@frc.edu.
Kinderlin
Anonymous
Guest
0 post
04-Oct-05
10:54 AM
Kinderlinn
Thank you for clearing things up. Tell everyone I said hi as well. You can
email me on the other site www.cabin28.com
sheila
RICHARD MEEKS
4 posts
04-Oct-05
11:11 AM
GO GIRL,
Dang were getting an online family reunion going on here. Nice to hear
from you all. Craig may have proof that he lived up there somewhere and
went to college but he didn't hang out with any of us and definitely
wasn't part of any "wild bunch". You guys just blew his last claim to
being a part of all this by what you wrote. Now that we've cleaned up this
website.....lets all keep in touch.This site will be closing soon.We are
using the new site now. www.cabin28.com.Talk to ya'll later!
Last Edited: by RICHARD MEEKS on 2005-10-04 11:14:15.843
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0 post
04-Oct-05
11:31 AM
Craig is a complete fool
and is trying too hard to prove things he can't prove. Dude, you should be
ashamed of yourself and stop trying to f*** with people's emotions. If I
was a member of either of the Sharp or Dana's familes I would beat the
crap out of you. But I am not so I won't. Get a life Dude.
kmmannies
6 posts
04-Oct-05
6:15 PM
Craig-
Well, firstly I would like to say.. we NEVER hung out, I find you very
weird. That is why I called the cops on you, huh? Not any normal person
will sit out side of a house full of teenage girls and flash the head
lights at the window all night long. We arent buddies, never were never
will be. Second. Stop calling me Kinneries. My name is Kinderlin. And yes.
My mom did say those things. She really dont want anything to do with you.
My dad looked for your number last night to yell at you. What you are
saying on here is getting back to him through our family. He hates that..
so do I. I dont want our family getting a bad name. Give yourself a bad
name, dont bring my family in it. NONE OF THEM, including Richard. And 24
years of friendship.. ha. They hadnt heard from you in how many year?. I
am adult now.. i only met you two years ago. Thus really isnt 24 years..
Anyways replying to what you were saying, sure your a good guy, everyone
has good things about them... but You are making this whole thing about
you. It had NOTHING to do with you, and you need to realize that. And I am
doing great in college... which shouldnt matter to you. I really am not
fond of you.. I think you are a twisted man. The more I read on here the
more I dislike you. You cant say I am prejudging you. I have meat you in
person.. even then I didnt like you.. I am not trying to be harsh, really,
but dont think I am your friend. Dont think for a minute that I trust you
or belive what you say, cause I dont.
And it doesnt matter where the computer is.. no its not at my house, but
we do have ACCESS to one. Point frankly Its just creepy that you know
where we live. I dont trust you. And yes my mom read everything on here
and thinks " THis is bull shit." her words. She was happy that I said what
I said, and what Richard said. You think your friends, your not, friends
dont lie about things like this. And she is family with Richard and Shela,
not you. Blood is thicker than that.
No we dont have a farm.. We have had any of those animals in ages. You
dont know me, nor do I want to know you any better. I just wish you would
grow up. This isnt you sob story, stop acting like it. Your not part of
the familys that were involved. Your not anything, but a poor lonely guy
who wants to be in the wall of fame. Well it dont work that way. LaRonda,
says " I dont back up anything Craig says, and that he can kiss my ass"
end quote. The point of this post is to let everyone know that LaRonda and
Monte dont have anything to do with this man, nor do they back up his
statements. They think he needs to stop writing all this false "FACTS".
The one thing I hate about the Internet is that people like him can say
anything they want and get away with it. Dont trust this mans words. From
people who know him personally say " He is a liar" I am sorry to be so
harsh, but its what they think. They are "sickened by the fact that he
used their names as a back up in his "story"."
So, end of my point, I state once again, dont trust this man. Belive the
people that were there, or the familys. Not people who want to feel
important. I wish Craig the best of luck finding himself before its too
late, you really should get help. And Shela, mom says thanks for taking
this guys shit like you did, shes proud of you. Richard, its nice to hear
from you, even if its under these conditions. Good luck readers on
beliving what you want.. heres a little bit of truth. Kinderlin Mannies
Anonymous
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0 post
05-Oct-05
12:50 AM
Fact one: Craig was in
Quincy in April of 1981.
Fact two:
Craig has admitted driving John and Dana
on a drug heist from Bo and Marty.
Fact three:
Craig seems to be telling the truth.
Fact four: Bo and Marty were very upset with John and Dana.
Are we
trying to solve a murder mystery? Why not stick
to the facts.
Craig seems
to be trying to make amends for his
dangerous behavior from the past. We might
give him a chance to tell his story, in a clear and factual manner,
without causing him a hard time and insulting him.
What good does that do except make you look very stupid!!! What he's doing
takes a lot of guts. Give the guy a chance!
Ej
Anonymous
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0 post
05-Oct-05
8:08 AM
EJ,
Thank you. I also defended Craig on the other board.
All this negative talk can only be counterproductive.
Anonymous
Guest
0 post
05-Oct-05
9:17 AM
Why are you defending him
do you know this guy personally? did you live there? You have people who
were there that say this guy is not for real
Anonymous
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0 post
05-Oct-05
12:26 PM
kinderlin
ok
for one thing i was trying to sleep in my truck in an
uncomfortable position since i could not find an hotel
room that night if you remembered that correctly and if i remember right
your parents had gone camping and i did
not know that..i hit the high lights by accident a few times but not all
night as you claim..get it right. i do believe cali was looking after you
that night too if i remember right.
i knew you
did not like me as you always seemed uncomfortable with me being around
and i had this feeling
about that and now i know and i always thought you liked to talk and
gossip alot and i never said anything til now
but everytime i was up there you were goossiping about someone or
something and i guess being in the mountains
you have nothing else to do but that. im sorry you never liked me as i
never thought i did anything to you to make you dislike me except maybe
the lights thing which was
an accident and it was an unconmfortable truck i was trying to sleep in.
i have
always tried talking to you and ask you things about school and everything
and what your taking and
if your going to chico state or whatever and tried to talk to you in an
interesting way as you were my two good friends daughter. i guess ill
always be the outsider there and i have few friends and i lost two of my
good friends no matter what you say or others.
for you to
basically say they were never my friends but someone they knew was really
hurtful kinderlin so you know that and im not normal in any ways as sure
you know im different and i wont go on here and say im not different as i
am different. you want to know the truth kinderlin is that someone should
take people as they are and not by appearance and i have never said
anyhting bad or disgrading towards you except the gossip remark and
i wont go to that level ever.
heya like i
said i was never in quincy and plumas and im going to forget i was up
there as it is too painful for me and two friends turned their backs on me
and their daughter ragging and saying unfair and untruthful things at me
is too much. YOU PROOF IM LYING ABOUT THE DRUG RIPOFF AND EVERYTHING I
SAID KINDERLIN OR SHUT THE HECK UP AS IT IS NOT FAIR FOR YOU TO COME ON
AND CALL ME A LIAR WHEN YOU HAVE NO PROOF ANY THING I SAID WAS UNTRUTHFUL
OR THAT IM MAKING THIS OUT ABOUT MYSELF WHEN IM ONLY TRYING TO GET TO THE
TRUTH. SURE IT CONTAINS SOME STUFF WE DID AND I DID BUT IT IS STILL ALL
ABOUT SUE,TINA,DANA AND JOHN JOHN IN THE LONG RUN...THATS WHAT IM TRYING
TO DO IS REACH THE TRUTH AND YOU AND YOUR UNCLE AND YOUR PARENTS ONE DAY
WILL HAVE TO COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT WHAT IM
SAYING MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE TRUTH AND HARD AS IT MAY BE KINDERLIN, THE
TRUTH CAN ONLY COME OUT IF SOME PAIN AND
THINGS WE CAN NOT EVEN FATHOM MIGHT BE TRUE.
I KNOW BLOOD THICKER THAN WATER AND I APPRECIATE STANDING UP FOR YOUR FAMILY AND ALL BUT OPEN YOUR EYES AND MAYBE JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE POSSIBLILITIES THAT WHAT IM SAYING IS TRUE.
Anonymous
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0 post
05-Oct-05
12:27 PM
I do not know Craig. I'm
interested in the Keddie mystery because I now live in Quincy
and if the creeps who did this are still around,
I want them out of circulation. I now know some
of the people involved and I'm investigating
this on my own. I think Craig seems to be telling the truth
about what he knows and that this other crap is a distraction. The cheap
insults and outright disinformation
makes me think that many of you know much more than
you're saying. There's a good chance that some of you might have even been
involved and are trying to distract
attention from Bo and Marty for some unknown reason.
I have good reason to think that a Van was used and that there were three
people in the Van. A witness has given me this information. One of the
persons still lives in Quincy
Ej
JesseW
61 posts
05-Oct-05
12:32 PM
EJ,
Can you please E-mail me at Jwolf@wafertech.com
thanks
Jesse
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