RICHARD MEEKS
1 post
03-Oct-05
12:42 AM
I JUST FOUND THIS WEBSITE
TODAY. HEY,SASSY(AKA SHEILA)AND FAMILY I MISS YOU ALL A LOT. DON'T LISTEN
TO THE PEOPLE ON THIS SITE LIKE CRAIG WHO DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT YOUR
FAMILY OR DANA. I KNEW YOUR FAMILY VERY WELL AND CRAIG HAD NOTHING TO DO
WITH THEM. DANA AND JOHNNY WERE NOT INVOLVED IN DRUGS AND DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
WHAT DRUGS WERE. THEY WERE GOOD BOYS AND YOUR MOM WAS A VERY GOOD LADY.
SHE WAS LIKE A SECOND MOM TO ME. CRAIG IS A GLORY SEEKING BAY AREA FAG AND
OBVIOUSLY HAS NO LIFE YET! JUST LIKE HE WAS A NOBODY WHEN HE MOVED TO
QUINCY "AFTER" THE MURDERS. HEY CRAIG, ANY GIRLS BEAT YOU UP LATELY? THATS
ALL FOR MY FIRST POST. HOPE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY IS WELL.KEEP IN TOUCH.LOVE
YOU ALL!
Anonymous
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0 post
03-Oct-05
6:31 AM
Richard,
Good to see some real people here, This site is going down mid October
please sign up for the new board
Here is a link
http://www.phpbbcity.com/forum/?mforum=cabin28
We need real people like you around that know the truth
sassy
7 posts
03-Oct-05
8:12 AM
Hey Richard,
Go to the other site www.cabin28.com and email me.
sassy
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0 post
03-Oct-05
8:47 AM
Hi Richard - I don't know
you but listed man, your post kicks ass and I wish I had the guts to call
Craig out like you did. I wanted to do that in my "Craig" post but since I
do not know any of the parties involved I really didn't want to offend
Shelia. Meaning I didn't want Craig replying and saying things that would
even be more rude than he has said before. I find some of the things he
has said intollerable and like I said, I think he is very lucky that sassy
has been so polite in her responses. That says alot about her character.
Wow yet again another poster who has said John and Dana were not on drugs and Sue was a nice lady. Gee.........imagine that!
Anonymous
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0 post
03-Oct-05
12:37 PM
richard
i dont know your family
ok
heya you remember me right
because i remember you and i do know your family
atleast part of it and where ya come off saying this
what would your sister say to this and monte also.
look im out of this now as it has gotten way too
nasty and very mean spirited in all ways.
richard i can not believe you would say such things
towards me and you know im been friends of both monte and laronda for like
24 plus years now.
it is just because of laronda and monte i dont rip into you
as i got respect for friends and family.
richard you
believe what you want to believe and
everyone else can too as i dont care as i said
what i needed to say and thats all im going to say.
EJ
4 posts
03-Oct-05
2:11 PM
I'm confused. I've read
the information on the list
and can't understand why Craig is being given such a hard time. Are you
upset with the information he has provided
or are you upset with the way he has expresed himself?
Is there some reason to believe that he is lying?
I haven't seen that reason if it exists.
If his story is true, and it sure has the ring of truth,
then this mystery could be solved. We need to examine
his evidence not his personality or history.
Ej
RICHARD MEEKS
2 posts
03-Oct-05
8:05 PM
EJ,
CRAIG SAYS DANA DRANK AND DID DRUGS BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT HE DIDN'T
BECAUSE HA HAD A MEDICAL CONDITION THAT PROHIBITED HIM FROM BEING ABLE TO
DRINK. IF CRAIG REALLY KNEW DANA HE WOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS ABOUT HIM.
JOHNNY WAS NEVER CALLED JOHN JOHN BY ANYONE, HE WOULD HAVE HATED THAT. I
PRACTICALLY LIVED WITH THIS FAMILY AND THEY WITH MY FAMILY. OUR FAMILIES
WERE VERY CLOSE BACK THEN. OUR MOTHERS WENT TO THE COLLEGE TOGETHER AND
ALL US KIDS HUNG OUIT TOGETHER. THERE IS SOME EVIDENCE THAT WAS WITHHELD
THAT ONLY THE FAMILY AND CLOSE FRIENDS WOULD KNOW ABOUT THAT PERTAIN TO
THIS INVESTIGATION THAT CRAIG COULD NOT TELL YOU ABOUT BECAUSE HE WASN'T
EVEN IN PLUMAS COUNTY AT THE TIME. HE THROWS OUT PEOPLES NAMES FROM QUINCY
AND KEDDIE THAT HE MET AFTER ALL THIS WENT DOWN. HE WAS NOT EVER ONE OF
THE "WILD BUNCH" OR OF ANY GROUP HE WAS KNOWN BY ALL OF US AS A "SNITCH",A
"NARK" AND A "SISSY BOY". MY WHOLE LIFE CHANGED WHEN THIS ALL HAPPENED AND
I JUST DON'T LIKE ANYONE TALKING ON HERE ABOUT ALL THIS WHO WASN'T EVEN
THERE OR KNOW ALL THE FACTS.
Last Edited: by RICHARD MEEKS on 2005-10-03 20:45:13.723
Anonymous
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0 post
03-Oct-05
8:13 PM
Richard,
Are you saying Craig didn't live in the area until after the murders?
I wonder why anyone would want to create some false scenario about an unsolved murder. There was a drug rip off according to Josh in the last message board. But when did this happen? Was Craig behind it? And did it have absolutely nothing to do with John and Dana?
Why would Craig try to sell us this theory for months?
Could someone be so deranged that they would post so many messages about something that never really happened? Could he be that starved for attention? I'm dumbfounded...
RICHARD MEEKS
3 posts
03-Oct-05
8:37 PM
YES! HE IS THE TYPE OF
PERSON WHO WOULD DO THIS. HE WAS A SOCIAL OUTCAST BACK THEN AND IT SOUNDS
LIKE HE STILL IS. GO BACK AND READ ALL OF HIS POSTS AND FORM YOUR OWN
CHARACTER ANALYSIS OF HIM JUST BY WHAT ALL HE'S POSTED. DANA COULD NOT
DRINK ALCOHOL AT ALL!
kmmannies
1 post
04-Oct-05
9:41 AM
Creg Walters- Why do you
come on this site and purposely try to make yourself part of something you
had NOTHING to do with. I totally agree with Richard Meeks. You see, Creg,
I know you personally and I know that you even live in Quincy when the
murder happened; I know that you like to make yourself feel like your
important. That’s great, but not when it involves my family. You have NO
IDEA WHAT THE HELL YOUR TALKING ABOUT. Sheila is part of my family, she is
a wonderful person, don’t you think its hard enough to live day to day
with her memories, then to deal with have a over active imagination creep
like you, coming on here and starting crap. Hey, I recommend not coming
back to Quincy for a very long time. Oh.. LaRonda and Monte don’t want
anything to do with you… don’t call Them . Don’t come by. You’ve tapped
into something you can’t dig yourself out of. They would never say those
things about people they loved. So please stop saying stuff that isn’t
true. I only makes you look like an idiot.. In my eyes you’re not welcome
in Quincy –at ALL. Shelia don’t listen to this creep. He isn’t wroth it.
Really. Mom says hi.. and not to let this ass get to you and to call her.
Uncle Richard we tried calling last night. The number Grandma gave up
didn’t work. Hey don’t let Creg boil your blood. He a pathetic excuse of a
human being who needs to get his head checked, really Creg go see someone.
Well I am done for now. To the people who don’t know me I am Kinderlin
Mannies, I am family of Richard and Sheila, They both know the truth don’t
listen to Creg Walters.
Anonymous
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0 post
04-Oct-05
9:45 AM
Thanks for the post
Kinderlin Im so glad to see people on here that actually did know sue and
the boys.
Hope to see you on the other board as well
kmmannies
2 posts
04-Oct-05
9:52 AM
I didnt know Sue or The
boys. I do know Creg, Sheila, Richard, Monte, LaRonda. I know that Creg
really has some screws loose, nothing he said is FACTUAL at all, there
mearly ideas in his twisted head.
Kinderlin Mannies
Too Close to Home
21 posts
04-Oct-05
10:17 AM
Kinderlin,
I have an idea of who you are, although I won't post it here. Not everyone may have figured it out yet. I know you never got the chance to know Johnny and Dana, but they were neat guys and my guess is you would have really liked them.
If you or your parents want to contact me and know who I am, you can do so at domesticgoddess91@gmail.com. I should have graduated in 86, but moved in 84.
Thanks for clearing up so much that we all suspected for so long about Craig.
kmmannies
3 posts
04-Oct-05
10:53 AM
I will have my mom email
you if you would like. you can also email her at my email address if you
would like. kmmannies@frc.edu.
Kinderlin Anonymous
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0 post
04-Oct-05
10:54 AM
Kinderlinn
Thank you for clearing things up. Tell everyone I said hi as well. You can
email me on the other site www.cabin28.com
sheila
RICHARD MEEKS
4 posts
04-Oct-05
11:11 AM
GO GIRL,
Dang were getting an online family reunion going on here. Nice to hear
from you all. Craig may have proof that he lived up there somewhere and
went to college but he didn't hang out with any of us and definitely
wasn't part of any "wild bunch". You guys just blew his last claim to
being a part of all this by what you wrote. Now that we've cleaned up this
website.....lets all keep in touch.This site will be closing soon.We are
using the new site now. www.cabin28.com.Talk to ya'll later!
Last Edited: by RICHARD MEEKS on 2005-10-04 11:14:15.843
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04-Oct-05
11:31 AM
Craig is a complete fool
and is trying too hard to prove things he can't prove. Dude, you should be
ashamed of yourself and stop trying to f*** with people's emotions. If I
was a member of either of the Sharp or Dana's familes I would beat the
crap out of you. But I am not so I won't. Get a life Dude.
kmmannies
6 posts
04-Oct-05
6:15 PM
Craig-
Well, firstly I would like to say.. we NEVER hung out, I find you very
weird. That is why I called the cops on you, huh? Not any normal person
will sit out side of a house full of teenage girls and flash the head
lights at the window all night long. We arent buddies, never were never
will be. Second. Stop calling me Kinneries. My name is Kinderlin. And yes.
My mom did say those things. She really dont want anything to do with you.
My dad looked for your number last night to yell at you. What you are
saying on here is getting back to him through our family. He hates that..
so do I. I dont want our family getting a bad name. Give yourself a bad
name, dont bring my family in it. NONE OF THEM, including Richard. And 24
years of friendship.. ha. They hadnt heard from you in how many year?. I
am adult now.. i only met you two years ago. Thus really isnt 24 years..
Anyways replying to what you were saying, sure your a good guy, everyone
has good things about them... but You are making this whole thing about
you. It had NOTHING to do with you, and you need to realize that. And I am
doing great in college... which shouldnt matter to you. I really am not
fond of you.. I think you are a twisted man. The more I read on here the
more I dislike you. You cant say I am prejudging you. I have meat you in
person.. even then I didnt like you.. I am not trying to be harsh, really,
but dont think I am your friend. Dont think for a minute that I trust you
or belive what you say, cause I dont.
And it doesnt matter where the computer is.. no its not at my house, but
we do have ACCESS to one. Point frankly Its just creepy that you know
where we live. I dont trust you. And yes my mom read everything on here
and thinks " THis is bull shit." her words. She was happy that I said what
I said, and what Richard said. You think your friends, your not, friends
dont lie about things like this. And she is family with Richard and Shela,
not you. Blood is thicker than that.
No we dont have a farm.. We have had any of those animals in ages. You
dont know me, nor do I want to know you any better. I just wish you would
grow up. This isnt you sob story, stop acting like it. Your not part of
the familys that were involved. Your not anything, but a poor lonely guy
who wants to be in the wall of fame. Well it dont work that way. LaRonda,
says " I dont back up anything Craig says, and that he can kiss my ass"
end quote. The point of this post is to let everyone know that LaRonda and
Monte dont have anything to do with this man, nor do they back up his
statements. They think he needs to stop writing all this false "FACTS".
The one thing I hate about the Internet is that people like him can say
anything they want and get away with it. Dont trust this mans words. From
people who know him personally say " He is a liar" I am sorry to be so
harsh, but its what they think. They are "sickened by the fact that he
used their names as a back up in his "story"."
So, end of my point, I state once again, dont trust this man. Belive the
people that were there, or the familys. Not people who want to feel
important. I wish Craig the best of luck finding himself before its too
late, you really should get help. And Shela, mom says thanks for taking
this guys shit like you did, shes proud of you. Richard, its nice to hear
from you, even if its under these conditions. Good luck readers on
beliving what you want.. heres a little bit of truth. Kinderlin Mannies
Anonymous
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0 post
05-Oct-05
12:50 AM
Fact one: Craig was in
Quincy in April of 1981.
Fact two:
Craig has admitted driving John and Dana
on a drug heist from Bo and Marty.
Fact three:
Craig seems to be telling the truth.
Fact four: Bo and Marty were very upset with John and Dana.
Are we
trying to solve a murder mystery? Why not stick
to the facts.
Craig seems
to be trying to make amends for his
dangerous behavior from the past. We might
give him a chance to tell his story, in a clear and factual manner,
without causing him a hard time and insulting him.
What good does that do except make you look very stupid!!! What he's doing
takes a lot of guts. Give the guy a chance!
Ej
Anonymous
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0 post
05-Oct-05
8:08 AM
EJ,
Thank you. I also defended Craig on the other board.
All this negative talk can only be counterproductive.
Anonymous
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0 post
05-Oct-05
9:17 AM
Why are you defending him
do you know this guy personally? did you live there? You have people who
were there that say this guy is not for real
Anonymous
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0 post
05-Oct-05
12:26 PM
kinderlin
ok
for one thing i was trying to sleep in my truck in an
uncomfortable position since i could not find an hotel
room that night if you remembered that correctly and if i remember right
your parents had gone camping and i did
not know that..i hit the high lights by accident a few times but not all
night as you claim..get it right. i do believe cali was looking after you
that night too if i remember right.
i knew you
did not like me as you always seemed uncomfortable with me being around
and i had this feeling
about that and now i know and i always thought you liked to talk and
gossip alot and i never said anything til now
but everytime i was up there you were goossiping about someone or
something and i guess being in the mountains
you have nothing else to do but that. im sorry you never liked me as i
never thought i did anything to you to make you dislike me except maybe
the lights thing which was
an accident and it was an unconmfortable truck i was trying to sleep in.
i have
always tried talking to you and ask you things about school and everything
and what your taking and
if your going to chico state or whatever and tried to talk to you in an
interesting way as you were my two good friends daughter. i guess ill
always be the outsider there and i have few friends and i lost two of my
good friends no matter what you say or others.
for you to
basically say they were never my friends but someone they knew was really
hurtful kinderlin so you know that and im not normal in any ways as sure
you know im different and i wont go on here and say im not different as i
am different. you want to know the truth kinderlin is that someone should
take people as they are and not by appearance and i have never said
anyhting bad or disgrading towards you except the gossip remark and
i wont go to that level ever.
heya like i
said i was never in quincy and plumas and im going to forget i was up
there as it is too painful for me and two friends turned their backs on me
and their daughter ragging and saying unfair and untruthful things at me
is too much. YOU PROOF IM LYING ABOUT THE DRUG RIPOFF AND EVERYTHING I
SAID KINDERLIN OR SHUT THE HECK UP AS IT IS NOT FAIR FOR YOU TO COME ON
AND CALL ME A LIAR WHEN YOU HAVE NO PROOF ANY THING I SAID WAS UNTRUTHFUL
OR THAT IM MAKING THIS OUT ABOUT MYSELF WHEN IM ONLY TRYING TO GET TO THE
TRUTH. SURE IT CONTAINS SOME STUFF WE DID AND I DID BUT IT IS STILL ALL
ABOUT SUE,TINA,DANA AND JOHN JOHN IN THE LONG RUN...THATS WHAT IM TRYING
TO DO IS REACH THE TRUTH AND YOU AND YOUR UNCLE AND YOUR PARENTS ONE DAY
WILL HAVE TO COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT WHAT IM
SAYING MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE TRUTH AND HARD AS IT MAY BE KINDERLIN, THE
TRUTH CAN ONLY COME OUT IF SOME PAIN AND
THINGS WE CAN NOT EVEN FATHOM MIGHT BE TRUE.
I KNOW BLOOD THICKER THAN WATER AND I APPRECIATE STANDING UP FOR YOUR FAMILY AND ALL BUT OPEN YOUR EYES AND MAYBE JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE POSSIBLILITIES THAT WHAT IM SAYING IS TRUE.
Anonymous
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0 post
05-Oct-05
12:27 PM
I do not know Craig. I'm
interested in the Keddie mystery because I now live in Quincy
and if the creeps who did this are still around,
I want them out of circulation. I now know some
of the people involved and I'm investigating
this on my own. I think Craig seems to be telling the truth
about what he knows and that this other crap is a distraction. The cheap
insults and outright disinformation
makes me think that many of you know much more than
you're saying. There's a good chance that some of you might have even been
involved and are trying to distract
attention from Bo and Marty for some unknown reason.
I have good reason to think that a Van was used and that there were three
people in the Van. A witness has given me this information. One of the
persons still lives in Quincy
Ej
JesseW
61 posts
05-Oct-05
12:32 PM
EJ,
Can you please E-mail me at Jwolf@wafertech.com
thanks
Jesse
Anonymous
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0 post
05-Oct-05
1:33 PM
EJ
PLEASE EMAIL ME TOO
AT LUCKMUTT43@AOL.COM
I AM NO LONGER INVOLVED IN THIS ALL
I QUIT
BUT LIKE TO KNOW YOUR SOURCE AND PRIVATELY
YOUR RIGHT SOME PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO DIVERT
AND GET ME TO LOOK LIKE A MONSTER AND WEIRD PERSON
AND WHICH I AM DIFFERENT AND I WILL ADMIT TO THAT
AS I WIL ALWAYS BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED
TO ME THRU OUT MY LIFE.
BUT IM NOT LYING NOR TRYING TO MAKE THIS ABOUT ME
FAR FAR FAR FROM THAT.
THAT IS WHY IM STAYING AWAY FROM THE NEW SITE
SO PEOPLE WILL SEE THIS AND KNOW IM SPEAKING THE TRUTH AS HURTFUL AND HARD
AS IT IS TO THEM AND THAT THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT SAYING WHAT I HAVE SAID
IS TRUE.
I HAVE
NOTHING TO GAIN BY GETTING ATTENTION AND NOTHING TO GAIN IN ANYWAYS AS I
GOT EVERYTHING I NEED FOR
THE REST OF MY LIFE AND I CAN ACTUALLY LOSE THINGS
AND LOSE ALOT IF THIS COMES OUT THIS IS TRUE WHAT I HAVE SAID. SO IF IT IS
TRUE SO WHY DID I DO THIS
TRUTH,
JUSTICE AND REVENGE FOR MY FRIENDS
AND FOR THIS I GOT EX FRIENDS OR MAYBE NOT EVEN
EVER FRIENDS WHO I THOUGHT WERE FRIENDS SAYING
BAD THINGS AND HURTFUL THINGS TOWARDS ME.
YOU HEAR THAT MANNIES..I THOUGHT YOU WERE FRIENDS
AND MAYBE WE WERE NEVER FRIENDS BUT I THOUGHT SO.
YOU HURT ME AND I SPOKE ONLY THE TRUTH
HOPE YEAH ALL SATISFIED WHAT YOU DID AND I ONLY
WAS TRYING TO BE A GOOD FRIEND TO YA ALL
AS IM NOT
DOING ANYTHING TO HELP THE SITE NOW
BUT CAUSE THESE PEOPLE TO TALK SHIOOT MORE AND
IM NOT GOING TO BE DRAGGED DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL.
I HOPE MONTE
YOUR SEEING THIS AND FIND MY NUMBER
BECAUSE I GOT SOME WORDS FOR YOU AND LARONDA..
I TORE UP AND TORCHED YOUR NUMBER SO DONT THINK
ILL EVER CALL YOU ...THINK AGAIN. TO THINK
I THOUGHT YOU WERE A FRIEND AND SAME WITH YOU LARONDA
AND IT HAS COME DOWN TO THIS.
I HAVE NEVER
DONE ANYTHING TO HURT OR DAMAGE YOUR
FAMILY AND STILL HAVE NOT AND YOU ARE DOING THIS.
NICE STAB IN THE BACK GUYS AND MAYBE WE WERE NEVER FRIENDS
IN YOUR EYES BUT IN MY EYES WE WERE AND THAT HURTS.
EMAIL ME EJ
LaRonda
1 post
05-Oct-05
9:32 PM
I am sorry to think that
you would come on here and say the things you say. I was your friend, when
we were young, or you were Montes friend, and I was friends with Monte,
therefore yes you did know me. But then you left for how many years? Then
out of nowhere a couple of years ago you come back into the picture. That
truely isnt 24 years. We were kids, we are adults now, why dont you start
acting like one. Far as I can remember, and I remember alot you werent
here when all this came down. I am pretty sure that I would remember that.
I have another question? If you were such friends with John and Dana, why
wouldnt Shela remember you? Why doesnt Richard remember you. I remember
you after all of this happened, and we were all very close. We were all
one family, Sue was my second Mom, and my mom was their familys second
mom. None of us remember you during that time. Yes you did live in Quincy
and attend FRC, but Not until later, and if you did live in Quincy you
werent friends with us all. I am very proud that Kinderlin is standing up
for her family... she has been raised to do so... and yes you do say
things on here that arent true, I know this, Shela knows it and anyone who
was there knows it, the only people your fooling is the people who werent
there, or the people who think you truthful. So please Keep saying what
you are. But its really not going to get us anywhere. This isnt about you,
I have read all of what you have wrote and you make it sound like you were
THE REASON. then you defend yourself saying that you werent. Make up your
mind. Listen, dont contact my family ANY OF THEM .. I want nothing to do
with you, and I am not trying to say cheep shots here. I am just setting
the truth, no more Kinderlin in the middle, she was doing what she felt
was right, I am sorry that you got hurt. I have had enough of this shit. I
dont need to be gettin phone calls in the middle of the night saying your
on here saying OUR names. Its rude. Dont use us as a sape goat, if you
have proof fine... have a transcrip, but I do know you werent friends with
all. I am sorry. EJ.. Jesse, i dont know you, But i was there, this is my
second family you guys are talking about. Please dont make up your mind
with what has been said, unless its by The Sharps, Danas family. Becasue
point frankly anyone can say they were friends with who ever they want,
but when it comes done to it, they are just trying to be apart of someting
that truly have NO business in. Creig.. call or come by I WILL BE THE WONE
TO BRAKE YOUR NOSE!
LaRonda
JesseW
63 posts
06-Oct-05
7:46 AM
LaRonda,
Thanks for the above Post, Im glad you found the site, I hope you can make
it to the new site and join the Disscussion
Anonymous
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0 post
06-Oct-05
12:38 PM
laronda
break my nose
wow
shorty
thats a big order even for you
and i always called you shorty
whats up with the violence act
so we were now back to be friends at one time
someone please tell me what is going on?
first richard says i was never up there at the
time of the murders which i was
and kinderlin says i am a stranger and a strange guy
hanging out at the house or around the house
but wait we were once friends at one time.
does that make sense at all and you say i
change my stories and here is three family
members saying different things.
laronda your
memory must not be too good
as i knew monte the ist month i was there
and we were friends almost the whole 17 months
i was up there and thats 1 year and 5 months.
i disappeared after what happened and i guess you
know why and how that happened.you need to really check with FRC and get
when i was going to school there
to vertify this.
why you did
not see me for over 20 years after
i left and thats how long i was gone was because
i did not know if anyone of the people that caused all this was still
alive or where they were at. you know this and yeah all the sudden i
showed up after i found out that the people were dead and i knew all along
who did it or had a good idea before you even told me it was marty and bo.
i just did not tell you i knew or gave any indications i knew and i was
still keeping all this info inside me all this time and i tried to tell
you all so many times on that driveway in one way or another and you
remember the float and the parade when i came up and i rode in the truck
with monte in the parade.well on the driveway i tried telling ya all what
i knew and you just walked away without saying a single word. the gold
miners float and you guys were painting rocks gold and you got ist place
for best float that year as i remember that and we celebrated at plumas
club afterwards.
you think it would easy to say what i needed to say and come off in the right way without this happening which it has happened and it has gotten really bad and i lost some friends because of this all which is what i feared would happen if i said anyhting.i swear i should not of said anything now that i know this would of happened and i should of just kept quiet and let someone else say something or maybe evidence surface. it is just not worth the truth coming out nor have this pain and hurt start all over again.
i never thought such pain and anguish would come out of the truth and i guess like i said i should not of said anything and kept my mouth shut and let fate maybe solve this without my help or what i knew.
i am no longer want to have anything to do with this case nor quincy or plumas county so please dont email me or call me as ill just hang up and not answer your emails.
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06-Oct-05
1:06 PM
Craig - you are never
going to stop posting here so why do you keep saying you are? You are a
needy person. You need attention or something. I don't understand why
don't you leave these people alone.
When I first discovered this board it was the old board, I think right before it shut down. Part of the reason why I did not believe this was a real case was your posts. They made no sense. They read like jibberish and looked like some 6th grader wrote them.
Also, in my "Craig" thread that I started, I said I had never been to Keddie or Quincy or even heard of those towns and that was true. I think 99% of the other people on this board have been there. If you want to accuse people of not being familiar with the area, just acuse me directly of it and not everbody else. Again, why don't you please leave this people alone. You keep saying your are not going to post, yet you keep coming back. I think all you are doing is trying to fuck with everybody and I'm not afraid to tell you that. Need I have to remind you yet again - a 14 year old girl came home and found her mother knifed to death. Are you that much of an asshole to keep coming on here and posting some of the stuff you do?
LARONDA - I don't think you need to worry about "strangers to this case"
like me believing anything Craig says. Anyone with a 6th grade education
would not believe him. He changes his story constantly, and half the time
you can't make sense of what he says.
I promised myself I would not post about you again Craig. And I broke my promise, which does not make me too happy. To everyone else but craig, sorry for the f bomb but the guy is a lunatic and I just had to say it.
Anonymous
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06-Oct-05
3:32 PM
i am not going to post in
the new forum
that is what im saying period
and i have a college degrees
and working on more of them
so you know
why DO YOU think my talk is jibblish
by the way I AM JUST WONDERING
TO START
OFF......
I DID NOT BRING THE DRUG RIPOFF UP AND IT WAS STARTED AND
IT WAS SAID BY THE AUTHORITIES AND OTHERS WAY BEFORE
I CAME ON THE IST FORUM
REMEMBER I WAS GONE FOR OVER TWENTY YEARS AND THE DRUG
RIPOFF THEORY WAS BROUGHT UP WAY BEFORE I CAME ON
OR EVEN WENT BACK TO QUINCY FOR THE IST TIME IN MANY YEARS.
SECOND-THERE
IS WAY TOO MUCH EVIDENCE AND CLUES POINT
TOWARDS MARTY AND BO AS SUSPECTS AND THEY WERE KNOWN
DRUG DEALERS WHICH I AGAIN DID NOT START NOR BROUGHT UP
AS IT WAS WELL ESTABLISHED BY THE TIME I CAME ON THIS
SITE.
THIRD-THE
FACT THAT BO LIKES SUE AND WANTED TO GO OUT
WITH HER AND THE FACT THEY HATED JOHN JOHN AND DANA
WAS A KNOWN FACT WAY BEFORE I CAME ON THE IST FORUM.
WHAT IM
TRYING TO SHOW YOU IS THAT ALOT OF THE KNOWN FACTS WERE ALREADY OUT THERE
AND ALL I DID WAS CONFIRM ONE DETAIL IN THE DRUG RIPOFF AND YOU JUMP ON ME
LIKE I AM
MAKING THIS OUT TO BE ABOUT ME WHEN I BROUGHT NO NEW STUFF
UP IN ONLY THAT I WAS INVOLVED IN THE RIPOFF AND WAS THE DRIVER. I SHOULD
OF NEVER SAID ANYTHING AT ALL AND SHUT MY MOUTH AND KEPT IT SHUT.
YA ALL
JUMPED ON ME LIKE I LIED OR KEPT STUFF OUT AND JUST
LOOK WHAT EVIDENCE AND CLUES WE HAVE ALL TOGETHER AND WHAT WE HAVE IN WHAT
AUTHORITIES HAVE IN EVIDENCE AND CLUES AND NOT ANYTHING I HAVE SAID OR
DONE.
NEVER GO ON WHAT I SAID BUT WHAT OTHERS HAVE AND SEE WHERE THAT LEADS YOU
IN SUSPECTS.
NOW WHAT EVIDENCE DO YOU HAVE I LIED OR THAT IM NOT TELLING THE TRUTH AND IM NOT COUNTING MANNIES,MEEKS OR ANYONE ELSE BUT WHAT EVIDENCE THEN HEARSAY DO YOU HAVE TO SAY IM NOT TELLING YOU THE TRUTH....
COMPARED TO
THE EVIDENCE THAT MARTY AND BO WERE INVOLVED IN THIS AND THE FACT THAT
THEY WERE KNOWN DRUG DEALERS
ALONG ALL THE REST OF THE EVIDENCE AND CLUES AUTHORITIES HAVE.
DOES THIS
MAKE ANY SENSE WHERE IM GOING WITH THIS?
YOU GUYS ARE GOING ON HEARSAY EVIDENCE AND HEARSAY
WORDS SPOKEN BY PEOPLE WHO I THINK ARE SCARED FOR THE TRUTH TO COME OUT
AND SURE THEY WANT THE TRUTH TO COME OUT
BUT NOT THIS TRUTH.
WE HAVE ALOT OF PRETTY GOOD EVIDENCE AND CLUES THAT THE AUTHORITIES HAVE AGAINST MARTY AND BO.
BUT AGAIN
LET ME STRESS WE DONT KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED
AND THE JURY STILL OUT ON THAT.
New Guest
Guest
0 post
06-Oct-05
3:53 PM
By jiberish I mean there
is alot of run on sentances and there needs to be punctuation in alot of
the stuff. I have to read your stuff twice sometimes in order for it to
make sense. But maybe you are just typing your stuff out on an emotional
level, I don't know. I also don't know the area so maybe it is me?
I just think it is kind interesting (to say the least) how you seem to get into all these arguements with alot of the Keddie people. You say one thing, they say something else and then they ask you questions. You come back being very evasive in your answer. Maybe I am the odd ball, but I find that strange.
I have never been to Keddie. I do not know if I will ever go to Keddie. You are right that I do not know the area. But most of the others have been there and after reading a bunch of stuff on here, something does not ring true. I have to pick who I think is more accurate.
The drug rip off may or may not have happened. I am sure there were drugs there, there are drugs everywhere. But I don't think there is any concrete proof that John and Dana had anything to do with a drug rip off.
Alot of people on here have asked you to leave them alone and don't bug them. I don't know you so I can't say that. So I will just wish you luck in life. Bye.
Anonymous
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0 post
06-Oct-05
4:01 PM
well the authorities said
there was a drug ripoff
and that it may of been the cause of the murders
i disagree with that all now
i think there was several causes actually
1.the drug
ripoff..put marty and bo in bad position
with their bosses in the valley or wherever they were.
2.bo liked sue and she refused him many times
3.marty and bo hated john john and dana
i think
those three reasosn were the cause of the murders
and i keep saying that and the evidence and clues points
towards this by not what I SAID BUT WHAT THE AUTHORITIES HAVE AND SAID.
THAT IS THE
DIFFERENCE IN WHY I SAID I DID NOT START THIS
IDEAS AS I JUST ADDED TO IT A LITTLE BIT
THATS ALL.
SORRY ABOUT
THE RUN ON SENTENCES AS I TEND TO DO THAT
ALOT AND YES ILL ADMIT TO THAT.
SORRY AGAIN
IGET ALL EMOTIONAL AND TRY TO TYPE THINGS I HAVE IN MY
HEAD AND WANT TO SAY.
AND SOMETIMES RUN ON SENTENCES
ANYTHING ELSE I DO
HONEST NOW COUNTS MORE THAN ACTION LATER SOMETIMES.!
Too Close to Home
23 posts
06-Oct-05
4:16 PM
why DO YOU think my talk
is jibblish
by the way I AM JUST WONDERING
Let's see, you rattle on and on about nothing.
You divide
your
sentences
in an irrational manner.
not to
mention the really long sentences that talk about absoulty nothing or that
you mentioned three paragraphs ago
and you never use a period or comma
If you want to be believed, you need to be believable. I have no problem with you posting to the new site, I've even learned to handle your writting style. Just please...stay with the facts and quit trying to pull Monty, LaRonda and Kinderlin into this. If you have memories about Johnny and Dana, let's hear them. But I have never even heard you descirbe what they looked like in the vaguest terms. I may not have remembered the details of their faces, until I drug out my yearbooks, but I did remember height, build and hair color.
I would never hire you to teach my kindergartener.
Anonymous
Guest
0 post
06-Oct-05
4:26 PM
heya i did apologize for
running my sentences sometimes.
damn girl
what else do you want.
your the one talking smack right now.
i have never said anything recent in the
last two or three posts about those mannies
have i?
whats your point?
if you want to describe dana or john john
look at the pictures and you have it.
anyone can describe them and i done more than that
on many occasions which not many have liked
but it is the truth isnt it.
count the
periods now
how many are there
do you even care.
opps there another period.
and...
yeah this is getting silly
is it all getting silly.
i have
apologized for the run on sentences
and i have an unique way to say stuff and type stuff
but girl i still get an 3.80 GPA in college so dont
even say i dont have smarts or that im not educated.
Anonymous
Guest
0 post
06-Oct-05
5:28 PM
Where is it said the there
were drugs involved? Was it on the posts or somewhere else
Anonymous
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0 post
06-Oct-05
5:54 PM
There was another message
board before this one. It had thousands of postings. Someone sabotaged it
and so Josh made this one. Sorry you missed the last one. It had lots of
input and information. Yes, drugs might have been involved. But the
autopsies of the victims showed no drugs or alcohol. You might want to
join the other site as this site will also be going down soon.
Cabin28.com
Anonymous
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0 post
07-Oct-05
5:07 PM
that is all true
and the new site will be a good site to visit
from now on as this one closing soon
so please use the new site
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